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While researching for my ongoing  lutherie-related art project of making an alphabetical series of woodcut prints depicting imagined instruments (e.g. the "earola" or the "guy-o-lin"), I came across an ancestor of the violin that I'd plumb forgotten about.  I remember reading about and admiring pictures of the lira da braccio in my distant past, but now being into this harp guitar thing I saw the instrument in a new light....it's clearly a harp violin, much moreso than that charming black, one-armed Knutsen that has the look but no harp strings.  The Lira da Braccio had 5 bowed strings over a (typically) unfretted, violin-like fingerboard, and two unfingered (harp) strings on the bass side of the neck that angled back to the back of the peghead, making them longer in length than the main strings, and putting them in reach of the thumb of the left (fingering/fretting) hand, which plucked them "as drones" (while the main strings were played with a bow).  I'd like to know more, but it sure looks like a violin version of a harp guitar to me.  And actually, I've been thinking for some time about a cello using the same idea.  Pretty cool!  Here's a link so you can see a picture: http://www.usd.edu/smm/braccio.html

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Hi Fred
That is a cool instrument. I know you know about the viola d'amore and perhaps a few others but you should look into some of these.
  • Lira da Gamba (Lirone)
  • The Baryton
  • Viola d’amore (French viola d’amour)
  • Pochette d’amour
  • English Violet (Violetta (Ita) Violette (Ger))
  • The Viola all’inglese
  • Violoncello all’inglese / Viola de Bordone

Instruments with extra strings as you can see is an English things.
All the best
Steve


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hey,

don't forget the Hardanger fiddle or hardingfele ! another gorgeous thing
and what about the Suzalyne ....

cheers,

Pierre


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Thanks for the list, Stephen!  Some of those I'm not familiar with, so I'll look forward to scoping them out.

You English.....after my own heart!

And yes, Pierre, you French are an OK lot as well!!

Fred

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that is a cool fiddle, and an interesting left hand plucking technique too, wow, i notice its at the music museum in South Dakota, Vermillian even, (one of my favorite woods), hmm come to think of it, i was born in Rapid city, SD! anyhow, i have a norwegian luthier friend in Coeur d alene Idaho who makes fiddles and has a few custom hardangers, http://www.lundinsviolins.com , none online i see tho. (<---my bro dave made that site)
i must add however, that most of the masterfull stringed instruments origionally do come from europe and abroad. but i venture to say that eventually the most efficient refining of everything is done in the good ol' USA!!! ha
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Wow...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Esterhazybaryton.JPG

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Yeah, the Baryton was something else!!

I didn't realized that it's extra strings, as with the Lira da Braccio, were plucked with the thumb of the left hand.  I thought they were only sympathetic.
Very cool.

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Steve Bissell found this:
http://www.bazantar.com/instrument.html
Fred and Sedgwick -eat your heart out!


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Gregg,

Yeah, the Bazantar is pretty cool.  I've never met Mark Duetsch (I think that's his name, he who owns it), but I've met people who know him and play with him (he's in the SF Bay area), and I've even been asked about making a similar instrument.  Suzy and I have a joint commission for a cello with sympathetic strings, but that's the closest I've come to doing something like that. 

Fred

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